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<hobot> sup babe
<hobot> ok I am going to go read sum #flames and get back to you in one second
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<hobot> Really the questions are about the future, about where do we stand, and about why is TGO freaking out?
<hobot> I mean Benz_s in my opinion was banned for what amounts to bullshit
<hobot> I mean sirioths ban well yeah
<hobot> and warhawk was an idiot
<solecistic> Okay.
<solecistic> I want to say this AGAIN before I answer that
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<solecistic> I am NOT tgo, I am not here on behalf of tgo, and I am not like his secretary or something
<hobot> Of course.
<solecistic> TGO made me head admin of LWS and told me basically it was my site to run.  But when he comes back and starts DOING things, it’s still HIS site in my mind and in everyone else’s.
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<solecistic> So…I’m sorry, that wasn’t really specifically answering your questions but your question are so vague
<hobot> Ok I will specify
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<hobot> One issue that everyone seems to be having, and this applies to benz especially, does lws want a poster that follows blindly, or someone with a little more independent streak?
<hobot> I dont see many TGO ball lovers coming up with great content
<solecistic> Okay let me put it this way
<solecistic> No, we don’t want people who lick the balls of the staff
<solecistic> That’s not fair to anybody and it’s stupid to expect it
<solecistic> At the same time
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<solecistic> If you are going to be a fucking asshole to the staff and disagree in a way that makes you look like a disrespectful, immature cockass, then you’ll probably get in trouble
<solecistic> I mean it’s just like anywhere else.  If you don’t like what your boss does at work, you don’t fucking light his desk on fire (well lol maybe you do)
<solecistic> But you’d get fired and probably arrested if you did that
<solecistic> You fucking ask him nicely about what you don’t like that he’s doing
<solecistic> Express your discontent, sure, but why you feel you have to do it in a way that says “fuck you for doing this”, I don’t get
<hobot> Well I mean there is a few ways to go with that:
<hobot> 1. this is the internet
<hobot> excuse me for one second
<hobot> I am laughing too hard to type just one more minute
<solecistic> haha ok costa
<solecistic> While he’s gone or whatever can I just say that I really like Flames.  I don’t want Flames to go anywhere.  I think those of you who are the top of the food chain in Flames…you know who you are…you actually are some of my favorite posters
<hobot> one pm I got is : AND what the hell, why would you make a thread saying “post here to be banned”. I’d think that’d fall under the jerk clause or somethin
<solecistic> I hate it when you do things that look like you are deliberately trying to piss off the staff
<solecistic> Okay once again I am not TGO
<solecistic> I don’t go over TGO’s head
<hobot> well then we need tgo in hurr
<hobot> because most of the problems we are having are with TGO
<hobot> I mean
<solecistic> also just for everyone’s peace of mind
<solecistic> <cryosin> sole: throwing us bones in the form of compliments does not make us like you any more
<solecistic> <cryosin> i would quit while you are ahead
<solecistic> <solecistic> i am not trying to throw you bones
<solecistic> <solecistic> i mean what i am saying
<solecistic> <cryosin> don’t say it
<solecistic> <cryosin> it makes you seem fake
<solecistic> <solecistic> could you please stop being a fucking conspiracy theorist fuck
<solecistic> <cryosin> trust me
<solecistic> <cryosin> i am not saying you are not sincere
<solecistic> Sheesh
<hobot> I see like 15 pms
<hobot> all about tgo
<hobot> this is pointless
<solecistic> all right
<hobot> I AM ENDING OUR MEETING
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<Sirioth> sole unbant my roommate
<Sirioth> if you strike me down, i’ll become more powerful than you’ll ever realize
<Sirioth> lol
<Hippocrass> honestly, most of the bitching is unjustified
<Sirioth> star wars
<Hippocrass> people like to complain
<solecistic> Well
<Squee> Complaining is my lifeblood personally
<solecistic> This is the problem with the complaining
<solecistic> Most of it is not done in a productive way
<Hippocrass> i agree
<Sirioth> the thing is
<solecistic> Whenever change occurs…I mean WHENEVER it occurs
<cryosin> how do you incite change without complaint.
<Squee> impoissible
<solecistic> Some people love the change and lick the admin asshole or they just love it and don’t feel the need to say anything
<Sirioth> LWS has no real way of being able to vent their complaining
<solecistic> Some people hate it and leave
<xena> who’d of thought people would complain about being banned for disagreeing
<Squee> except with threats. Like tgo’sdoing
<solecistic> Some people hate it and try to fuck with the staff
<solecistic> Then they become martyrs for anyone who agrees with them
<solecistic> And it’s like you know fuck you dug your own grave
<Biggington> getting rid of SS&Q is totally unjustified
<Sirioth> Yes
<RickScarf> Bottom line, IMO, is that LWS has been on the decline for awhile and something drastic like this needs to happen to get rid of all of the idiots
<solecistic> That was TGO’s decision and I can tell you why he removed it
<Sirioth> I agree rick!
<RickScarf> this was coming sooner or later
<Sirioth> However! this is not the right way of doing it
<solecistic> I can tell you why but if you disagree you can’t just expect me to do something right now
<Hippocrass> Biggington: getting rid of SS&Q is totally unjustified
<Hippocrass> why
<Sirioth> Hippocrass
<Biggington> its a help desk type of place
<Sirioth> TGO did that, it’s not her fault
<Squee> Well on a PUBLIC forum it’s kinda hard to weed out idiots because they make up a large percentage of the public
<Biggington> people need questions answered
<Biggington> but sole, please explain why
<solecistic> SSQ was a huge group of threads that asked stupid questions, or asked questions that should have been PMed to an admin anyway
<Hippocrass> Sirionth : yes i now
<solecistic> Also
<Hippocrass> Know
<solecistic> You aren’t going to like this I know but think about it before blowing up all mad and shit
<solecistic> Sometimes you can give people too much of a voice
<Sirioth> agreed
<solecistic> SSQ was a place for people who consistently complained to do their complaining
<Hippocrass> yes
<Squee> I think it depends on who you give it to really
<Squee> Some people you can give all the voice you can to it wont make a differance
<Sirioth> People aren’t going to PM an admin though.
<Sirioth> They need a centralized place
<solecistic> honestly I would like to bring a form of SSQ back
<solecistic> Not right now
<Hippocrass> why
<RickScarf> Doctors and Lawyers don’t publish their phone numbers usually.. could you imagine if you had a direct line to George Bush, or Bill Gates? They’d never get anything done…
<Squee> Yes
<Squee> but thats a LITTLEW different
<Nevrmore> .
<Squee> thats horribly large and extreme
<Sirioth> solecistic do you honestly think this is the right way of doing things.
<Squee> thats like comparing a fucking giant to an ant
<cryosin> i could care less about ssq and I am all for the lurk moar mentality but the dictatorship is something i cannot stand
<toplesschase> I think SSQ is pretty nessecery
<Squee> Amen
<Hippocrass> things need to change
<Biggington> as far as SSQ is concerned, if theres a thread that just has a “stupid question” that could be solved by an admin PM, why cant it just be answered and then the thread be closed
<solecistic> Sirioth I am just going to keep ignoring you because you proved today the perfect example of someone who doesn’t fucking get it
<Hippocrass> this is obvioue
<Hippocrass> the problem is
<Squee> SSQ was handy maybe change it a bit instead of just wiping it off the face of the planet
<Hippocrass> there is no right way to change
<Sirioth> Fine. Got his attention though
<RickScarf> cryo: if you’re a parent, you want to give your children freedom to make their own choices, but at the same time need to slap them and show them who’s boss
<solecistic> You’re an idiot
<RickScarf> “tough love”
<xena> roffle scarfe
<xena> god
<Sirioth> What goes around comes around for TGO I guess.
<xena> honestly
<xena> what the fuck
<Nevrmore> There’s a difference between tough love and dictatorship
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<Biggington> as far as SSQ is concerned, if theres a thread that just has a “stupid question” that could be solved by an admin PM, why cant it just be answered and then the thread be closed
<cryosin> also, this is an internet forum, not a parenthood
<benzs_s> lol
<Nevrmore> Saying “I disagree with you” and getting punched is not tough love
<Nevrmore> It’s abuse
<Squee> Also scarf we arnt little kids
<RickScarf> we aren’t a dictatorship.. since day #1, this has been a site run by Admin
<solecistic> SIRIOTH YOU WERE GOING TO BE UNBANNED AND YOU HAD YOUR ROOMMATE POST A TL;DR ABOUT TGO BEING A FAGGOT ARE YOU SERIOUSLY TELLING ME YOU EXPECTED TO GET PUPPIES AND FLOWERS FOR THAT
<thanatos> scarf, admin:user is not father:child
<cryosin> good one rick scarf
<solecistic> that is what i mean, you don’t fucking get it
<RickScarf> nothing has changed, we are just enforcing rules that had been previously ignored
<benzs_s> really
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<hobot> best topic ever
<Squee> =)
<Hippocrass> lol
<benzs_s> i swear people disagreed with tgo before
<cryosin> so you never enforced the “disagree with tgo and get banned” rule
<cryosin> that doesnt make any sense
<benzs_s> this could be called #gunboat_diplomacy
<solecistic> Guys
<benzs_s> lol
<solecistic> I think I know what part of the problem is
<cryosin> we are too smart for you.
<Sirioth> Solecistic, I do get it. Trust me, I ran a similar forum, with 60,000 people. I know what it’s like
<cryosin> shut up siroiuth
<Sirioth> But I never openly tried to control people
<Squee> ran 0_o
<solecistic> Some of you who are intelligent enough to discern what is politically correct and incorrect have this glorified idea of a democratic kind of system or at least one where you have 100% freedom of speech
<solecistic> The thing is
<solecistic> LWS isn’t that
<Squee> yea yea internet
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<hobot> cryosin: chuckling at banned
<hobot> cryosin: lmao
<hobot> cryosin: hahahaha
<cryosin> that is some dictatorship
<cryosin> right there
<cryosin>
<Squee> but theres a point where its just retardation and not fair. I mean we belong to the forum we should have the right to express what we thin kabout where its going
<Sirioth> hey now
<Sirioth> not cool
<Sirioth>
<benzs_s> lol
<solecistic> Yes Squee you do
<benzs_s> put it in south park terms
<benzs_s> you guys are doing stuff
<Hippocrass> Look guys
<benzs_s> it’s pretty gay
<benzs_s> we don’t like it
<benzs_s> stop it
<Hippocrass> if you dont like it
<Hippocrass> go somewhere elsde
<cryosin> anyways: if LWS does not have 100 percent free speech, why do we go there?
<Squee> It seems we do here but not quite so in the actual forums I feel like a jew hiding i na attic
<Hippocrass> start your own forum
<benzs_s> i happen to quite like lws Hippocrass
<Nevrmore> solecistic just say it: LWS doesn’t want you to have an opinion if that opinion disagrees with TGO’s
<Hippocrass> emo your hair
<solecistic> LWS has never once had 100% free speech
<Hippocrass> whatever
<solecistic> Never
<solecistic> Not once
<Nevrmore> We don’t need no education and all that shit right?
<solecistic> Nevrmore that’s not true
<cryosin> well okay aside from child porn illegal shit whatever
<solecistic> It really isn’t true
<solecistic> Let me ask you this, if you disagree politely and do your due diligence that way, you won’t get in trouble, but if we don’t immediately go “omfg you’re right” and change our policy to suit you, why do you think that means we aren’t listening?
<Biggington> why was steelrain banned
<Nevrmore> I think you are listening
<Squee> Well a banning I thin kis about the same as not listening in example of benz
<solecistic> I don’t KNOW why steelrain was banned jesus
<Sirioth> all he’s doing is trying to make examples of people. controlling by fear
<Nevrmore> I also think you’re punishing
<cryosin> you punish free thought
<toplesschase> who cares, he was banned for a day
<cryosin> it is that simple at this point
<benzs_s> it is a strange precedent to set anyway
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<Squee> =)
<Hippocrass> yay
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<RickScarf> If people have a problem with TGO, they need to take it up with him via PM or AIM. Posting a thread about it is not the mature way to handle a disagreement.
<benzs_s> lol
<hobot> Rickscarf
<hobot> fyi
<cryosin> he never responds
<cryosin> we have tried
<hobot> I have tried to talk to tgo via aim maybe 50 times
<Nevrmore> I mean, it’s like in school. Ther’es always that kid who is just a giant asshole and gets in trouble with the teacher. Then there’s the little meek kid who has shitty timing and gets in trouble right along with the bully
<hobot> maybe got one response loller
<cryosin> we do what we can to communicate with him and he does not recipricate
<cryosin> same with you guys current proceedings aside
<RickScarf> Well I’m sorry to hear that, I didn’t know that
<solecistic> I knew it
<solecistic> You guys don’t understand what the deal is with LWS, I guess
<thanatos> IT IS NOT UP FOR DEBATE. WE ARE NOT LOOKING FOR OPINIONS. LWS IS ON LOCKDOWN.
<solecistic> David doesn’t run LWS anymore and he hasn’t for a long time
<cryosin> woah woah woah
<Nevrmore> So what is this a puppet government?
<Squee> Well then why does he get to do this
<solecistic> Because it is still HIS website that he legally OWNS
<solecistic> He can’t run it because he doesn’t have time
<solecistic> From a public perspective TGO is always going to be the head of LWS
<solecistic> That is too hard to change
<Squee> Well then he shouldnt make small descions like bannings and such. He should only make large descions those are for you mods to make
<benzs_s> that’s great
<benzs_s> but it doesn’t really explain anything
<RickScarf> Aside from the POST HERE AND BE BANNED thread, I honestly would’ve done pretty much the exact same things TGO has done over the past couple days.
<Squee> Have you ever though? When do you?
<RickScarf> LWS needs a swift kick in the gobs
<toplesschase> I think SSQ needs to come back, if not for just bugs alone. Obviously most of the users in here would know just to PM an admin or something, but a lot of new people wouldn’t. Getting super strict is pretty much nessecery, about the question of the good posters v mod ball licking posters, I think it is nessecery to weed out all the faggots for the good posters to thrive.
<Nevrmore> I just don’t understand the logic in all of this shit
<Biggington> as far as SSQ is concerned, if theres a thread that just has a “stupid question” that could be solved by an admin PM, why cant it just be answered and then the thread be closed
<cryosin> lws has needed the kick
<solecistic> clinton listen ss&q will come back later when i figure out how i want it to run
<cryosin> it is now kicking the wrong way and the wrong section of the population
<cryosin> THAT is the issue
<RickScarf> nevrmore: the logic is that we need to drasticly up the IQ of LWS members, and the way to do it is to ban people who are not contributing in a positive manner
<cryosin> banning dissent does not raise the IQ
<Hippocrass> there should be no dissent though
<RickScarf> exactly hippo
<hobot> also to ban everyone in WoE
<Hippocrass> what are you disagreeing with
<Nevrmore> So having a different opinion is suddenly not a positive contribution
<RickScarf> If you’re dissenting, you are hurting the effort
<Squee> if you really want to weed out tards you shouldnt make it free but is that a discioin you want to make
<Nevrmore> Got ya
<Nevrmore> I’ll make a note of that
<benzs_s> stalin said something like that
<benzs_s> ;D
<Seraphex> this chat sucks
<Seraphex> fuck you guys
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<Hippocrass> then leave
<solecistic> You guys are way too focused on being martyrs or something, I mean I can’t bridge the gap between your understanding and what is going on
<Squee> go SA’s route make all current users free members for life and add a price to signing up
<Nevrmore> he’s going home
<RickScarf> If you are against banning idiots than you support terrorism and we can’t have that hun
<cryosin> we DONT want to be martyrs, we want to be regular citizens
<Squee> I dont wanna be a fuckign martyr
<thanatos> if you want smarter posters, you should stop pandering to the 12-14 crowd
<cryosin> you just leave us no choice
<Squee> I wanna fucking stay at LWS and have an enjoyable time
<cryosin> EXACTLY.
<Squee> not ALL of us want to go down in glory
<benzs_s> same
<solecistic> If you want to be regular citizens why do you fucking post threads like “here is a horrible psychotic image of a dead former staff member”
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<solecistic> I mean I just don’t fucking get it
<benzs_s> er
<benzs_s> i think war hawk did that
<cryosin> yeah
<Biggington> we all dont do that
<thanatos> she was abusive to us
<Squee> I dont do that!!!!!
<benzs_s> not #flames
<RickScarf> Then just ride the wave, lord knows Flames has had its waves in the past… yet we’ve survived as a whole
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<Ozzy> the people that were “martyrs” (used loosely because all they did was voice their opinion) only got a ban for a day or two
<cryosin> i never had any quarrel with fubar but that is not it
<Nevrmore> what is your deal with saying we want to be martyrs
<thanatos> ohshi
<Nevrmore> seriously
<Ozzy> who really cares
<Biggington> thats prob not tgo
<Hippocrass> thanatos: she was abusive to us
<RickScarf> let the ones who want to try to get banned get banned, but if you want to stick around than be a good little boy scout
<TGO> LWS is run by a series of tubes.
<Squee> your lumping us all i none category I find that horrible and are you reallt TGO?
<Hippocrass> thats no justification
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<benzs_s> lol
<Squee> hahahahaha
<Ozzy> …
<toplesschase> Is that actually TGO or some faggot who is about to get bant for impersonation
<victrola> ?
<thanatos> lmao
<thanatos> lmao
<thanatos> lmao
<Squee> what do you think
<Squee> TUUUBBBEEESS
<Nevrmore> STOP FUCKING TALKING ALL AT ONE GRAH
<Squee> kay
<cryosin> we don’t want to try to get banned jesus christ.
<Biggington> i can honestly say I never liked furby, but I wont say anything bad about her
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<cryosin> we want to be able to dissent in peace
<TGO> I’m here to answer questions
<TGO> who is your daddy and what does he do
<Ozzy> ok answer this are you the real tgo
<TheDudeFish> who really killed JFK?
<RickScarf> http://forums.livingwithstyle.com/showpost.php?p=4845707&postcount=6
<Squee> Kay sole. I dont wnat to be a hero and get b&, I dont post images of a dead staff memeber I have a certain ammount of respect.
<Nevrmore> My daddy’s the grand wizard!
<benzs_s> why can’t i put my head in a microwave and shut the door
<TGO> If you aren’t going to ask me real questions, I’ll leave
<Nevrmore> TGO did I suck your cock when I was new here
<TGO> r u a male
<Squee> Well this went downhill
<Nevrmore> who is this imposter
<benzs_s> jasin colegrove
<cryosin> question: why are you a nazi faggot dictator kike? 😮
<Squee> ZZOMG
<TGO> jasin colegrove is my alias
<Ozzy> cryosin why are you so immature?
<Ozzy> honestly
<TGO> well cryosin
<cryosin> because i CAN be
<Ozzy> ok
<TGO> when you see what I’ve seen
<benzs_s> is that really tgo
<Ozzy> well i can be gay
<toplesschase> SAME REASON HE IS A FAGGOT
<thanatos> ozzy why are you so mature
<toplesschase> ZING
<benzs_s> i am not convinced
<Ozzy> i can jump off a bulding
<Squee> Well question is, this the real TGO or just a fuck about my vote fuck about
<TheDudeFish> obligatory saying of penis
<Ozzy> but im not going to
<TGO> the changes are perm.
<Nevrmore> TGO WOULD NEVER ASK ME FOR MY GENDER
<TGO> this IS a dictatorship.
<cryosin> if it were
<cryosin> you wouldn’t be here
<Nevrmore> MYSTERY FUELS OUR RELATIONSHIP
<toplesschase> that isnt the real TGO
<TGO> I am here to get all your usernames
<Squee> Ok then I demand revolution
<thanatos> it is a dictatorship
<Nevrmore> Get out of here you SLUT
<hobot> tgo are you an octaroon
<TGO> There is no questioning .. the republican.
<thanatos> why do we bother to stay
<solecistic> ugh i am afk smoking
<RickScarf> TGO is nickleba@ZiRC-3C725F11.lonestar.org * Jasin Colegrove
<RickScarf> TGO on #diplomacy
<RickScarf> TGO using sapphire.va.us.zirc.org Ooooh….Shiny
<Squee> VIVA LA REVILUTION
<TGO> hobot, not but I am american
<TGO> no but seriously.
<hobot> so you are is what you are saying
<TGO> What should I do, what is a better way
<Nevrmore> Jasin Colegrave
<cryosin> not ban people for thinking
<cryosin> ban people for suckin
<RickScarf> COLEGRAVE != CHAPMAN
<Nevrmore> Why is your name spelled gay
<toplesschase> you guys are dumber than I thought if you actually think that is tgo
<TGO> well
<Nevrmore> IT’S NOT JASIN YOU DUMBFUCK IT’S JASON
<toplesschase> it was obv from just the way he is typing and speaking
<Nevrmore> WITH AN O
<TGO> I justw ant LWS to be like it was
<TGO> I thought I’d scare some people
<Squee> a sex toy?
<Nevrmore> TGhO
<toplesschase> can someone ban this faggot
<cryosin> fear is not the tool of a loving leader. ban this yogurt
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<TGO> wrong.
<Squee> that was quick
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<cryosin> lol
<Squee> hahaha
<Squee> Ok so I thin kwe lost sole that went downhill fast
<Nevrmore> This topic is now about your favorite pizza topping
<Nevrmore> Mine is human
<Squee> Cat here
<thanatos> mushroom
<Squee> ever had cat in a eggroll
<Squee> omg bomb
<Squee> the chinks had it right when they thought Cat + Chink Food
<victrola> beer
<cryosin> yep we lost sole
<solecistic> no i’m here
<cryosin> i don’t think this was productive as we had hoped
<solecistic> but i haven’t read anything
<solecistic> give me a minute to catch up
<Ozzy> was it ever going to be productive?
<Ozzy> she said she cant answer tgos questions
<Ozzy> and its obviously not gonna be productive if you sit there whining calling people whores and dictator kikes
<cryosin> well ozzy let’s be honest here.
<cryosin> tgo is a dictator at this point in time, and he may be of jewish descent
<cryosin> solecistic has a history of whoredom.
<cryosin> thus, i am completely accurate in my assertions.
<thanatos> ye
<Squee> Oh sole alot of this before it is not very important or revalent
<Nevrmore>  A man’s cat runs away and the owner decides to screw over his neighbors in a bout of rage
<cryosin> that said i would still like to salvage this
<solecistic> Okay well
<Ozzy> well i agree tgo is being a dictator on the internet
<victrola> i don’t understand how you believe that you can run the site when TGO can come back whenever he likes and do what he likes. 
<solecistic> Let me ask you this cryosin
<Sirioth> come on cryosin
<Ozzy> but really cryosin you dont want to go anywhere with this
<solecistic> Actually no
<solecistic> Let me just fucking tell you guys what’s up
<Ozzy> all you want to do is be immature and type in caps insulting people
<Nevrmore> s’up?
<Biggington> shh
<solecistic> We are going to implement an invite system after code red
<solecistic> Code red is NOT supposed to just quash dissent
<Nevrmore> children of the damned, your backs against the wall
<solecistic> It’s supposed to weed out the WoE and etc retards
<Biggington> haha
<thanatos> it will be as exclusive as gmail amirite
<RickScarf> INCOMING CHAT LOG
<RickScarf> <oshout> Hey, I disagree with your view that to up the iq you need to ban members. While this would probably raise the average ‘IQ’, it would un-diversify lws, making it boring. Boring = less traffic/registrations. Bannings should be for shit that truley deserves it. Not those who disagree/post in a thread. Remember the lolocaust? TGO was banning left and right for people who posted in flames..
<RickScarf> <oshout> it makes lws feel unstable.
<RickScarf> <RickScarf> Less traffic and registrations is expected in our gameplan
<RickScarf> <RickScarf> There are multiple steps to our new vision, and step #1 is ridding of idiots
<RickScarf> <oshout> Can you identify what attracted the idiots in the first place? Or maybe even find ways to make the idiots better posters.
<RickScarf> <RickScarf> We’ve tried the latter, trust me we’ve tried. As for the first part, who knows. Probably a bit of the Emo forum, but that is a scapegoat. The real reason they join (and stay) is lax rules, and then they get their idiot friends to join for the lax rules too
<Ozzy> thats a good thing
<Squee> ALERT ALERT
<RickScarf> <oshout> I dunno, personally banning seems so harsh, especially under such weak pretenses
<Nevrmore> CLONES
<RickScarf> <oshout> Yeah
<RickScarf> <oshout> (sorry lag)
<RickScarf> <oshout> I understand what you’re saying I guess
<RickScarf> <oshout> but it’s upsetting to see this shit going on in lws
<RickScarf> <RickScarf> I personally am not going to ban anyone who didnt have it coming.. I disagree with some of TGO’s recent bannings but also support them in a way because the people asked for it pretty much
<RickScarf> <RickScarf> It had to happen sooner or later
<Sirioth> stop being a yogurt rick
<RickScarf> <RickScarf> We’re on a downward spiral and its not easy to crawl back up
<RickScarf> <oshout> So you have a method to ridding the rot of lws, but what about rebuilding and growing?
<RickScarf> <oshout> you were talking about steps/phases, so I assume you guys have some tactics
<RickScarf> <RickScarf> Yeah we have a plan that I think is pretty solid and will work well but I cannot get into specifics
<RickScarf> <RickScarf> Can I paste this into #diplomacy? I need to get some stuff done real quick and want to share this with them too
<Hippocrass> grr
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<cryosin> yes ozzy, that is my ideal environment. as of late that environment has been threatened and since rational dissent has been shown to be as ineffective as immature dissent i have chosen the latter because it garners more attention.
<Hippocrass> i cant read all that
<cryosin> that said, shut the fuck up ozzy, you are not accomplishing anything by berating me at this juncutre
<cryosin> moving on, if you wanted WoE banned
<solecistic> Can I explain please
<cryosin> why not just ban all of woe
<cryosin> go ahead
<Squee> Go ahead sole
<Biggington> sole, im only listen to you
<Ozzy> well who said i wanted to accomplish anything
<Nevrmore> I just don’t understand why TGO or you guys think this is so black and white right now
<Ozzy> i plea internet srs clause
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* solecistic sets mode: +m
<solecistic> Okay
<solecistic> cryo you seem to be an intelligent voice of reason no i am not kissing your ass either
<solecistic> so here
<solecistic> sorry had to go afk a sec
<solecistic> all right
<solecistic> I will just be frank with you guys
<solecistic> We don’t know what will fix LWS
<solecistic> We are trying to figure out a way to clean it up
<solecistic> Make it a better place first by getting rid of the idiots who post things like “lol good story”
<cryosin> ….then why not just ban them
<solecistic> That’s what we’re doing
<solecistic> The reason I guess TGO has banned people for disagreeing is that he is pissed off
<solecistic> He doesn’t always do things the best way and he will be the first to admit that
<cryosin> well
<cryosin> <Ozzy> ask her then why dont they just tell us that in the first place instead of banning the people that are asking why it is being done? all tgo has to do is to say “to get rid of the idiots that say lol good story”
<solecistic> TGO doesn’t have to say it, I am saying it right now to you
<solecistic> We are trying an invite system later when the code gets done because we think it might help LWS
<solecistic> People will get a certain amount of invites per month
<solecistic> And if the people they invite get banned they don’t get to invite anyone anymore
<solecistic> It is an experiment, and it might fail
<solecistic> It might work really well
<solecistic> We won’t know until it happens
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<cryosin> it may be tgo’s playground but he has a way of destroying his sand castles when he thinks he can easily build another one
<cryosin> when in fact it may not be such
<solecistic> cryo look I understand where you’re coming from about how TGO is handling things
<solecistic> I agree with you about a lot of what you’re saying
<solecistic> From my perspective it feels like many people who are in here freaking out are just doing it because they just dno’t get it
<solecistic> And I don’t know how to explain things clearly enough for the light to click on
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<cryosin> i believe that anyone in here is too intelligent to just freak out over the big changes
<solecistic> Okay
<cryosin> rather the way in which they are being implemented
<cryosin> which we have gone over before
<solecistic> Okay then let me ask you so you can say it in plain terms right now
<solecistic> What do you feel is wrong with how it is being handled?  Just the fact that TGO banned some people for dissent?
<solecistic> Or is it more than that?
<cryosin> banning due to dissent is my #1 concern
<cryosin> it seems as if he has lost his sense of humor
<cryosin> also i am all for an invite system and a forum purge
<cryosin> but instead of blanket standards more specific filters should be applied to subforums that need it most
<solecistic> Elucidate that last statement for me, because I’m not 100% sure what you mean
<cryosin> world of emo needs posting standards drastically raised; gamer’s haven or the mess hall do not
<cryosin> casual discourse and GD are both shit and can benefit from similar changes whereas something like entertainment alley would not prosper under those same conditions
<solecistic> Right okay that makes sense
<solecistic> Regarding your issues with how TGO is handling disagreement from people
<TheDudeFish> i say put stories back on the main page
<solecistic> The front page will be coming back dudefish
<TheDudeFish> if people dont get sp for them at least give them some incentive
<solecistic> But anyway look about TGO
<solecistic> I can talk to him
<cryosin> okay
<solecistic> I can’t promise he is going to see it your way
<cryosin> also… SP and post voting are broken but i am not sure how to fix
<solecistic> there will be some changes to the sp system later on
<solecistic> But you don’t have to worry about that right now
<cryosin> also i think a lot of average and semi good posters that like LWS are afraid of the zoints / lws continuum
<cryosin> and of course as we all know zoints has been a point of great friction between the posters and the management
<TheDudeFish> or refuse to use it
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<solecistic> Okay the thing is
<solecistic> The forum splits did hurt LWS
<solecistic> I know that
<solecistic> Everyone knows that
<solecistic> And I understand why people are afraid of Zoints
<solecistic> But Zoints isn’t going away
<solecistic> And because TGO owns Zoints and LWS they are always going to be somewhat connected to each other
<solecistic> That is only fair to him, they are his creations
<solecistic> All I can say about that is that Zoints is not LWS and people who can’t grasp that are just going to get themselves into trouble if they start saying “fuck zoints and lws” because they’re frustrated
<solecistic> I get why they’re frustrated but I can only do so much
<cryosin> once the invitation system is in place there should be a comprehensive thread detailing the relationship between zoints / lws / the posters / the internet
<solecistic> Yes, that is on the horizon
<cryosin> I need to step out for a few minutes but a few people have been PMing me with questions to ask you or things to say (oshout ozzy sirioth)
<cryosin> sirioth is being obstinate though so i don’t reccoment you let him talk
<cryosin> brb
<hobot> cryosin
<hobot> you are the most obstinate man on the planet
<hobot> bar non
<cryosin> why thank you
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<Ozzy> not sure what obstinate means but i agree with hobo
<benzs_s> stubborn
<Squee> Sirioth needs to get his shit together
<Ozzy> well anyways i think this just all boils down to poor communication
<solecistic> What do you think needs to be communicated that hasn’t been, Ozzy?
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<Ozzy> well
<benzs_s> well we have the why
<Nevrmore> oh hey I can talk again
<benzs_s> the who and the what and even the how are kind of unclear
<Ozzy> i just think that if it was stated that this is targeted towards cleaning up gd woe etc than there wouldnt have really been much of a problem
<Ozzy> it was unclear as to what was going on and why changes were coming about
<Ozzy> so people voiced their opinion asking why is this happening?
<Ozzy> and they were banned
<Nevrmore> Not to mention all of this shit was dumped on us in the span of one day
<Squee> I just learned all of that not 10 minutes ago personally. All I got fro mthe lockdown announcement was that HEY THIS IS GONNA HAPPEN NOW
<Ozzy> i think it couldve been avoided if it was handled a lot more calmly and was just explained
<Squee> No clue why or what caused it
<solecistic> Well I can tell you that we felt we were being pretty clear when we said bannings were going to happen on a mass scale.  I mean most people seem to get it.  The people who have gotten so worried are kind of people who don’t need to worry about it.
<Ozzy> like saying in the first place “we are going to put in an invite system”
<solecistic> The invite system wasn’t supposed to be public knowledge
<solecistic> I decided to make it public knowledge in here
<Ozzy> well we did because we are usually the ones who get banned when this stuff happens
<solecistic> Not to stereotype you but Ozzy the flames kids are usually banned because they decide to go kamikazee
<Nevrmore> But you didn’t have to just dump it on us like you pulled a load-bearing rock out of a rockslide waiting to happen. My internet is gone for a couple hours and I come back to find everything turned on its ear
<Ozzy> when people say “the raterded posters who sound like incoherent 4yr olds” are usually the people that got their feelings hurt in flames and hate it
<Hippocrass> this is true
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<Ozzy> so they call all the posters in flames retards
<solecistic> I don’t think all the posters in Flames are retards.
<Squee> Yea, I have been getting lumped in categories alot.
<Squee> Well you don’t
<Ozzy> i know you dont
<Squee> and I gues sthats what mnatters
<solecistic> Yes it’s what matters
<Ozzy> but it wasnt really clear as to why these changes were coming
<Ozzy> thats all im saying
<Squee> Yea
<solecistic> If I see staff members banning people in Flames for being Flames posters in Flames I will fire them
<Squee> It seemed tgo came back one night
<Squee> acting strange
<Squee> and all shit hit the fan
<Ozzy> yeah
<Nevrmore> Flames should be considered the most intelligent forum on here. Everyone who posts in it was smart enough not to post their shit outside of it
<solecistic> Well it was sort of a coincidence
<solecistic> I mean that TGO came back
<Squee> So the tgo coming back wasnt related?
<solecistic> The forum cleanup thing was scheduled anyway
<solecistic> No it wasn’t related
<Nevrmore> are you kidding me
<Squee> Ok, that clears up a few things
<solecistic> I realize that everyone thinks it was because they don’t see the mod forum, heh
<Hippocrass> no she isnt
<Nevrmore> It was scheduled but we never got word of it?
<Ozzy> this all couldve been avoided if tgo made a thread saying something like “i dont like the direction that gd is going on etc etc”
<solecistic> Why would you get word of it?  LWS makes its public announcements to everyone at the same time
<Ozzy> just to be more clear on why people are being banned
<Nevrmore> never a “Hey, shit’s going down tonight, be careful” or a “Warning, major renovations coming, caution!”
<solecistic> Well
<solecistic> To be fair
<Nevrmore> Just a “We’re starting shit and there’s nothing you can do about it.”
<solecistic> I did say there would be 48 hours between the announcement of code red and code red
<solecistic> TGO is sort of jumping the gun but again that wasn’t expected or planned by me
<Nevrmore> Okay, I’ll give you that
<Ozzy> it was never clear as to why code red was happening really
<solecistic> Because the forums need something drastic
<solecistic> Tiny changes over long periods have taken LWS from a peak to a valley
<Squee> Yea, I thought it was just because TGO had a crazed idea
<Biggington> im just going to lay off lws like ive been doing for a few more says, im sure we’ll ride it out
<Nevrmore> But still, that’s only a forewarning in the midst of chaos. It’s like bad shit is happening and someone grabs a megaphone and shouts “MORE BAD SHIT IS HAPPENING SOON”
<cryosin> did regret’s exit have anything to do with this
<solecistic> No
<Ozzy> well sole look at it this way
<Squee> thats just bad luck I think never
<solecistic> It is bad luck
<Ozzy> you guys said code red is coming and people are being banned because we want the forums to change
<solecistic> Unfortunately I wasn’t going to say “okay we’ll postpone the purge because TGO is confusing the members”
<solecistic> I mean
<solecistic> We need to get it done
<Ozzy> no one is sure why you guys want change or where you want change from
<solecistic> Enough time has passed
<Squee> Yea, I get that
<Squee> TGO just really mucked this up I personally tjhink
<Ozzy> for all we know it could be from woe and gd or you could want change in flames
<cryosin> can you guys do us a favor and just code red right now and stop the painful waiting
<solecistic> We want change EVERYWHERE
<cryosin> because to be honest we are already there in all but name
<solecistic> Flames is obviously not really included in that
<Squee> Including flames?
<Squee> Ok lol
<solecistic> Okay maybe not obviously
<solecistic> But Flames is Flames
<Squee> =)
<Ozzy> well it was never really stated and that caused people to worry and voice their opinions
<solecistic> The ONE thing that will be done in Flames
<Nevrmore> Okay, sole, level with me, how epic is this purge going to be?
<hobot> guys we are going to get some new posters for a while 8)
<Ozzy> and it just created a ripple effect
<solecistic> Nevrmore hopefully very epic
<Squee> whats the ONE thing in flames?
<Nevrmore> Like, in the ballpark of how many bannings are we going to see? Because I kind of want to see this, really
<hobot> is there anyone in here who will be banned
<Squee> making me a mod =)?
<Squee> lol
<cryosin> tell us the one thing that will change then answer questions
<Ozzy> sp payout in flames because we are such good posters
<Ozzy> i knew it
<solecistic> okay
<hobot> lol ya rite
<solecistic> okay guys i have people in my house i’m sorry
<solecistic> let me read what you said
<Ozzy> k
<Squee> It’s ok rl>internet
<toplesschase> rl=internet
<hobot> maybe for gd posters
<hobot> CLINTON
<Squee> lawls
<Ozzy> i think we all understand eachother now
<toplesschase> fuck you nig I havent made a thread in there in months
<solecistic> 1) the thing in flames is that we want people to understand that they can say whatever they want as long as they don’t engage in fucked up stupid activities like making fun of a dead mod or trying to get people banned
<Ozzy> the war has been stopped before it started
<solecistic> 2) there is no list of people to be banned, tgo was joking and i wish he hadn’t said that
<solecistic> 3) i don’t know how many bannings but there will probably be a lot
<Ozzy> well sole tell #1 to daitengu
<Squee> How will you be judging the bannings?
<Biggington> how will you choose who will be banned
<toplesschase> 4) Can I make the list for you guys then since you don’t have one yet
<hobot> tell pauly to get on my fckn forum ban
<Ozzy> because he bans people from flames for breaking tables
<cryosin> guys
<cryosin> one at a time
<Ozzy> i think daitengu needs to leave flames alone a little bit more
<solecistic> dai tengu is no longer a mod/admin
<solecistic> he was fired
<Ozzy> thank god
<Squee> 0_o
<hobot> lol
<toplesschase> lol
<Nevrmore> I agree with bannings because of breaking tables though
<Nevrmore> It’s fucking annoying
<Squee> ty, but may I ask exactly why?
<solecistic> Why what
<Squee> was he fired
<benzs_s> why was he fired?
<benzs_s> just out of interest lol
<Squee> or is that need to know basis
<solecistic> guys I can’t tell you everything somethings are private
<Ozzy> well nevrmore it is required in some threads…like ones made by dr twist or wifebeater
<Squee> thought so
<cryosin> well the time for secrets is not now
<cryosin> secrets are just going to stir us up way more
<Ozzy> yes secrets is why this was started
<solecistic> it’s not that it’s a secret about why he was fired i just think it’d be disrespectful of him to talk shit or something
<Nevrmore> Feeling like secrets are being kept from us is the reason this shit happened
<Nevrmore> hey
<solecistic> it’s just decendy
<solecistic> err decency
<Squee> But sole more importantly how will you decide who gets banned?
<cryosin> i am not pressuring you to come clean but to be honest the time for respect is way out the window when we got banned for dissent
<solecistic> cryo
<Nevrmore> Aw come on, Regret posted my picture all over Flames when he found it, who cares about decency
<cryosin> yes i know it wasnt hyou
<solecistic> quit it, i didn’t ban anyone for dissent
<Biggington> how will you choose who will be banned
<cryosin> you are a part of the administration that we have a quarrel with
<toplesschase> he did
<toplesschase> post it I want to see said pic
<cryosin> gripes go up
<Nevrmore> Like the individual, hate the group
<Squee> <Biggington> how will you choose who will be banned
<Ozzy> guys im just happy that sole finally donated me my 6.57sp alright
<hobot> loller
<solecistic> Ozzy sorry about the wait on that
<Squee> lawls
<Nevrmore> That reminds me
<solecistic> As you can see there were big things afoot
<Ozzy> lol
<Nevrmore> Why was everyone docked 1 SP when that forum from PS was deleted?
<Biggington> sole can you please answer my question
<Nevrmore> everyone who posted a thread, I mean
<solecistic> okay jesus
<Biggington> how will you choose who will be banned
<solecistic> Regarding how we will choose who to ban: if you’re not posting in Flames just type correctly and don’t be an idiot I mean how clear can I get
<solecistic> There aren’t any new rules
<Ozzy> just more cracking down
<Squee> So lets say we are almost strictly posting in flamnes ATM we wont get purged?
<Ozzy> you should say that in a thread or something so its not just us that realizes that
<solecistic> The rules are the same we’re just going to actually enforce them and we’re doing it in a crackdown manner for drama yes because people who suck should just leave so we don’t have to do any work to ban them 8]
<Squee> So its more of a crackdown o nthe rules then a purge?
<cryosin> what about AI
<hobot> :H
<Ozzy> i hate it when fags like boston try to act elitist saying “yeah i am glad this is happening i hate those people in flames”
<Ozzy> when this really has nothing to do with flames
<solecistic> It’s a purge in the FORM of a crackdown on already existing rules
<cryosin> AI is the epitome of posts that are laden with shitty content
<Squee> Ok
<cryosin> yet appear good
<hobot> ozzy cry moar
<solecistic> Dude you guys are always going to get shit for posting in Flames
<solecistic> Not from me though
<toplesschase> I didnt take bostons comment to be about flames so much
<solecistic> So don’t even worry about it
<solecistic> Okay?
<Squee> You can dress shit up but its still shit
<Ozzy> :/
<Nevrmore> and my question has drowned…
<solecistic> Sorry Nevrmore what was it
<Squee> <Nevrmore> Why was everyone docked 1 SP when that forum from PS was deleted?
<solecistic> Oh
<Ozzy> well i just dont like them to have the satisfaction of thinking the entire staff is with them in hating flames
<solecistic> I have no idea but my guess is threads in that forum paid out 1SP
<Ozzy> thats pretty much it
<solecistic> If you ever posted there you lost some major pointage imo
<Nevrmore> That sucks
<solecistic> Some of the staff doesn’t like flames
<solecistic> My advice to them is to not read it *shrug*
<Squee> Flames is a strange beast
<toplesschase> and some of the staff are faggots, no offence
<Squee> not right for some perfect for others
<solecistic> Flames is a delicate animal that should be stroked and fed and sometimes punched in the face but not deleted or persecuted by staff
<solecistic> So
<Squee> Amen
<solecistic> Don’t worry okay I am on your side when it comes to the existence of Flames
<cryosin> what about AI
<Squee> That is good.
<cryosin> AI is a shithole in all but name
<Ozzy> well tell tell the gd/cd faggots that you hate them and flames is better and this change is coming about because of them and not us
<hobot> dude
<Ozzy> that would make my day
<hobot> dude I hear water
<solecistic> Ozzy maybe some day when we’re not in such a turmoil
<solecistic> Anyway cryosin
<cryosin> its sirioth lemme ban him
<solecistic> About AI
<Squee> I personally don’t post anywhere else, I see all the other forums as wastes of time, I used to post in drugs and booze and others before the zoints ness
<solecistic> The mods there are trying
<Ozzy> that deep thought forum really needs to be cleaned up as long as we are on that subject
<Squee> The thing about zoints I dont really want a high tech thing. Sure its ncie and great but  Ijust want simple forums
<Ozzy> i mean cmon someone made a thread about the spelling of capiche
<Ozzy> thats not deep thought
<Nevrmore> Well, my questions are answered and things have queieted down..I’m going to go eat dinner
<Ozzy> thats a google question
<Squee> Bye nevr
<solecistic> Okay I am just going to say take up deep thoughts issues with AI mods seriously because I can’t micromanage everything
<oshout> I want to be able to make my own forum out of zoints forums, with only the subforums on those zoints forums that i care about/visit
<cryosin> okay lets be honest, most of the posts in AI are not intellectual, and have never been
<Nevrmore> seeya in the obituaries
<oshout> where the hell is support & suggestions..
<Ozzy> cryo they are
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<solecistic> btw my power might go out we are installing a washing machine in this old house we live in ><
<cryosin> AI would be  best as a subforum of GD where politicla things are discussed
<Ozzy> pansophist deleted a post of mine
<toplesschase> I dont know if I can even see AI, I trolled it for a while and maybe I got banned from it
<Squee> Youch
<Ozzy> and used the word “jejune” in the reason
<Squee> my dryer is broken it suks
<Ozzy> cmon who knows wtf that means
<toplesschase> edit: I can still see it
<cryosin> AI needs to be accessable to the average poster while also not being a shitpile
<Ozzy> you have to be intellectual to use the word jejune
<Squee> AI is fill of elitest idiots
<cryosin> as it is now, it is neither of those things and thus fails immensely
<Squee> and thats a big problem
<toplesschase> pansophist is pretty fucking smart though
<toplesschase> and articulates well
<Squee> Theres always exceptions.
<cryosin> AI is elitist without reason. debates need to be MORE than just idiotic tug of war between liberals and conservatives
<cryosin> debates need to GO somewhere and have clear cut victors, who are rewarded based on their skill and intellect
<toplesschase> after the turmoil can we have a flames v AI bowl
<solecistic> yes we can
<solecistic> if you want
<Squee> Oh my
<cryosin> deep thought needs to be done away with
<cryosin> it is not deep thought
<hobot> buddies since when can you argue about religion and have a winner cmon
<toplesschase> I can
<toplesschase> punch da guy in da faesce
<toplesschase> winnar
<cryosin> through virtue of proof, fact, and debate skill
<solecistic> put him in his plaesce etc
<hobot> yeah if you are righting a doofus
<hobot> I would punch you in da dick
<Squee> Belief is a dangerous thing because everybody is right and never wrong i ntheir mind
<toplesschase> GL it is really small so you will have a hard time
<toplesschase> zing
<cryosin> intellect needs to be rewarded and nurtured, not thrown into flames and locked away to stay there
<solecistic> cryo i agree
<Hippocrass> wait
<Hippocrass> there is intellect in flames?
<cryosin> more than anywhere else…
<victrola> it’s in the dark recesses
<cryosin> also
<toplesschase> I inject each of my posts with at least an ounce of inteleteccecefa
<cryosin> i hate to break it to you guys
<cryosin> but EB is crap
<Hippocrass> yes
<Squee> 0_0
<toplesschase> ok well I am leaving for HOURS bye bye internets
<Squee> Lets keep EB out of this
<solecistic> I can’t believe people think there is a list of people to be banned
<Squee> EB is fine
<solecistic> Do people really think that?
<cryosin> stupid people
<hobot> yes
<hobot> yes
<solecistic> okay well there is no list lol
<hobot> like ok that nigger reeb is going down
<cryosin> everyone knows there are people the staff doesnt like
<hobot> we will wait till CODE RED
<solecistic> Cryo
<solecistic> I specifically told the staff to ban people for poor posting, not for being people the staff doesn’t like
<cryosin> i am not saying they are being lined up to be banned
<solecistic> And honestly MOST of the staff is really good about keeping a cool head and not going into crazymode
<cryosin> yes i never said there was a list to be banned i am just saying
<solecistic> no i know
<cryosin> everyone knows that the staff does not like everyone
<Squee> Sole I am confused I thought the mods were already supposed to be banning for poor posting I dont get how telling them to do so agai nwill make any differances
<cryosin> that plus the idea of a list stirs up the hive immensely
<solecistic> Squee I am confused about why you are confused
<hobot> t forum paid out 1SP
<hobot> [16:35] Ozzy: thats pretty much it
<hobot> [16:35] solecistic: If you ever posted there you lost some major pointage imo
<hobot> [16:35] Nevrmore: That sucks
<hobot> [16:35] solecistic: Some of the staff doesn’t like flames
<hobot> [16:35] solecistic: My advice to them is to not read it *shrug*
<Squee> <solecistic> I specifically told the staff to ban people for poor posting, not for being people the staff doesn’t like
<cryosin> also… the daily grind and personal support are really rapidly becoming the same thing
<Squee> Well wernt they already supposed to be doing this
<solecistic> What are you confused about
<hobot> http://forums.livingwithstyle.com/showpost.php?p=4845931&postcount=25
<hobot> is this kid a nigger
<Squee> Ah nvm I dont thin ki’m able to put what I mean in words correctly Ill just wait and see what happens
<cryosin> HoA should be a subforum of hobby lobby, as should the garage and the two art related forums
<cryosin> decentralization just confuses people
<hobot> zing
<Ozzy> everyone post here and say i was there or something http://forums.livingwithstyle.com/t324329-let-known-day-8-20-great-internet-war-8-20-2006-has-been.html
<Ozzy> and solecistic
<cryosin> ozzy you are not helping
<Ozzy> well its not really hurting
<Ozzy> i helped already and voiced my opinion
<solecistic> i will post in that thread i guess
<Ozzy> cryo i really dont have much of an opinion on the rest of lws since i dont visit places like AI or and discussion forum much
<Squee> I used too…
<Ozzy> except gamers haven but that place doesnt really have any problems
<Squee> But found flames a bit more understanding and entertaining
<Ozzy> i only brought up deep thought because of that stupid capiche thread
<cryosin> yeah seriously
<cryosin> that capiche thread
<cryosin> was the fucking lowest point in lws history
<cryosin> i am completely serious
<benzs_s> lol
<benzs_s> no
<Ozzy> i tried to reply “www.google.com” but sadly i could not reply
<benzs_s> pansophist made a thread about which way round the toilet roll should be
<benzs_s> in deep thought
<benzs_s> did you miss that one
<Ozzy> wow
<cryosin> wow
<Ozzy> yeah
<Squee> um
<Squee> ok
<cryosin> eviscerate them
<solecistic> …seriously?
<solecistic> (I never read AI)
<cryosin> ban him
<cryosin> ban them all
<solecistic> cryo settle down
<Ozzy> i saw the capiche thread because it was posted in flames
<solecistic> you are so fired up like a rocket
<cryosin> i try to be reasonable but people are stupid
<Ozzy> sole you should probably inform them what deep thought is about
<cryosin> and please i am about as fired up as selma hayak which is to say not at all
<Squee> I want all the forums zoints took away to be back on LWS. why didnt you guys do what you did…but keeps the forums o nLWS too?
<Ozzy> not exactly the place to get a large sp payout for a thread that could be made in cd
<Squee> I miss drugs and booze =(
<solecistic> Squee that happened before I was ever admin
<Squee> Really? I thought yo uhave been admin for days
<Squee> I dissappeared for awhile
<Squee> namel